Denyer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:55 pmMmm. A new first decent-ish figure for a character beats another competent but uninspiring version hands down
Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. After another wave of reveals the only thing that's really caught my eye at all was Leadfoot, and it's at least partly because the prospect of a new Leadfoot toy is such a novel idea in general. I had one as a kid and that surely helps too, but I had Thundercracker and Bumblebee too and their almost yearly redos don't get much attention from me at all.
Denyer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:55 pmWhat's soured me on the line is Motormaster being in 3P price territory, to the extent I've cancelled preorders. Just not interested in getting another version of the team to combine them. Think I'm going to sit most of the year out. If further down the line I find a loose MM cab I might think about a set of the other four.
Yeah, on the one hand I do realize that even without the other Stunticons, Motormaster and his Menasor bits are basically the size of Siege Jetfire. But on the other, building Legacy Menasor would cost me the same amount of cash as I laid out to assemble all three of Superion, Bruticus and Abominus back during CW and POTP. And Hasbro's going to have a tough time convincing me that Menasor is three times the toy as those guys.
(And even if it was, it's
Menasor, the ugliest and least-cool of all the G1 combiners by a wide margin IMO.)
Denyer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:55 pmAnd a square head would've been nice too.
This is something I've thought of more and more lately. For the price Hasbro charges for these things, the product should be better and one of the things that really should be included are Marvel Legends-style alternate heads. So many characters have two (or even three!) distinct head designs from the toy, cartoon and comics, and someone is always going to be disappointed when they put out new Stunticons or a new Blaster or a new Red Alert...
Tantrum wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:57 pmI may just be set on the core concept of Transformers. It's not that I've stopped liking them, it's that I have enough. I'll still pick up one or two if they offer something that I don't already have covered, like a crown/cape for Starscream, or blue Bluestreak. But I don't see myself buying many updates of characters I already have, especially if the new figures don't have fewer flaws, just different flaws.
That's about how I feel as well. Picking a name at random, I'm very happy with the MP Prowl toy I own. But unless it breaks or turns yellow, another Datsun that turns into a robot based on the cartoon model is going to be a tough sell.
Now that said, I own something like six different Cheetors, six or seven different Spider-Man toys, and who knows how many different Batman figures...and I'm happy with all of them because each one is a radically different take on the character. I'd happily buy, say, War Within Prowl or the IDW bulked-up police SUV design. Or a Generations Prowl that's designed around the toy deco. But none of that seems to be Hasbro's focus right now.
Skyquake87 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:50 pmInteresting that we're all feeling a bit tapped out with Legacy. I watched a review of the G2 'Laser' Optimus Prime that's due out and I thought to myself 'they could have just reissued the original and saved themselves the bother'. It brings nothing new to the table (apart from ankle tilts - wooo) and the shrunken trailer and lack of gimmicks rob that toy of what made it so great in the first place.
I've been messing around with RiD Scourge for the last few days thanks to the weirdly ugly Legacy version getting leaked, and you're not wrong. It's a
little clunky by modern standards, but it's a million times more fun than anything Hasbro's made in years. The fandom nowadays seems to be filled with people who value joints and poseability over everything else and scorn things like the original trailer's fifty different firing weapons, and I'm sure the new one feels like an upgrade to those folks, but it sure wouldn't to me.
The best thing about the original might just be how quickly you can transform it. It goes from a great robot to a great truck in eight steps, in under ten seconds. Core class toys are more complicated than that nowadays.
Skyquake87 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:50 pmThe modern take on G1 figures works because those original toys from the 1980s and 1990s had no articulation; updates of Prime (and Beast Wars) don't really bring anything new to the table.
In a lot of cases, it's not even that the new toys aren't bringing anything new. They're actually, actively worse! Cybertron fans slated Siege Galaxy Prime. I personally liked the Kingdom stuff, but I don't
play with much of it. I usually have a few of the 90s BW toys on my desk to fiddle with while working but it's not common for any of the newer toys to join them there because most of them don't
do anything.