Man threatened with arrest at Heathrow for wearing Transformers T-shirt
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No, trust me, they are stupid. Stupid and spineless. I see the stupid stuff all the time...especially where i live. People would rather cross a busy duel carriage way with big signs saying "WARNING FATAL ACCIDENT SITE" instead of walking up a few steps to use the foot bridge provided instead.
The amount of stupid people in the world worries me.
The amount of stupid people in the world worries me.
It's worth noting that I read this story on another site where an actual threat of arrest was made. I don't know which is true, though.General analysis: mate told him he'd make a few quid phoning it in when the story was relayed later, tart it up with a bit of outrage and you have the standard cookie-cutter broadloid "Society has officially gone to shit" quasi-outrage.
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Thats EXACTLY why its so outrageous. Theres something called "civil rights" and "freedom of speech". Those two things were obviously taken away from this man and its wrong. Plain and simple.dotCommunism wrote:There's a lot of ridiculous posturing about society in this thread considering all that happened was a guy was asked to change his shirt and he did.
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IIRC, we don't have freedom of speech, and I'm pretty sure I live in the same UK as you. And we also don't have the civil rights to wear whatever t-shirt we want. He was asked to remove a t-shirt, and he did so. There's very little solid on what would have happened if he hadn't. This whole thing is a complete storm in a teacup. Outrage is a massive over-reaction.
Right so if someone walked up to you and said "remove your shirt because it has a cartoon character on it and we just want to take away your right to wear whatever you want" you would do so?
Pathetic. Its attitudes like that which is why the human race is in the current situation its in. Too many stupid people not standing up for their human rights.
Your living in a really weird world if you think we dont have the right to freedom of speech in this country and arent entitled to stand up for it when its taken away from us.
The fact is these people have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to tell people what they can and cant wear or say! Sure if it was a shirt with osama bin laden on it saying "bomb the americans!" then yeah id see there would be a problem, but it was just optimus prime FFS!
Outrage is a perfectly justified reaction to this. Like i said lets see how youd react if the same BS happened to you.
Pathetic. Its attitudes like that which is why the human race is in the current situation its in. Too many stupid people not standing up for their human rights.
Your living in a really weird world if you think we dont have the right to freedom of speech in this country and arent entitled to stand up for it when its taken away from us.
The fact is these people have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to tell people what they can and cant wear or say! Sure if it was a shirt with osama bin laden on it saying "bomb the americans!" then yeah id see there would be a problem, but it was just optimus prime FFS!
Outrage is a perfectly justified reaction to this. Like i said lets see how youd react if the same BS happened to you.
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No. But if I was boarding a commercial plane (with the right to refuse entry) and they asked me to change it, I'd probably comply if asked politely. There's a difference between standing up for your human rights and being an intransigent, over-reacting bastard. And as a segue (which is what your entire post seems to be) there are restrictions on the clothing you can legally wear in this country - you can't wear a t-shirt which breaches obscenity laws, for example. Less spectacularly, lots of places have dress codes and/or uniforms. Your comparison is invalid because that's not actually what happened.Sonray wrote:Right so if someone walked up to you and said "remove your shirt because it has a cartoon character on it and we just want to take away your right to wear whatever you want" you would do so?
You're comparing wearing a TF t-shirt to human rights? The original article is faintly ridiculous. Your arguments are outright laughable.Too many stupid people not standing up for their human rights.
Legally, we don't (this is why people are always trying to get hate prophets deported). Whether we should or not is neither here nor there.Your living in a really weird world if you think we dont have the right to freedom of speech in this country and arent entitled to stand up for it when its taken away from us.
Whoops, contradiction. People have no right whatsoever to tell people what they can and can't wear (they do in certain circumstances, but never mind), AS LONG AS THEY DON'T WEAR THIS!!!!!!!! Heh.The fact is these people have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to tell people what they can and cant wear or say! Sure if it was a shirt with osama bin laden on it saying "bomb the americans!" then yeah id see there would be a problem, but it was just optimus prime FFS!
No it's not. Guy is asked to change t-shirt, by the sounds of it in a friendly and polite manner. Guy complies, by the sounds of it in good humour. Various jumped-up self-styled politicos start ranting about free speech (because t-shirts are a recognised form of speech, of course) and making up bullshit hypothetical extrapolations like 'f someone walked up to you and said "remove your shirt because it has a cartoon character on it and we just want to take away your right to wear whatever you want" you would do so?', and fail Godwin's Law.Outrage is a perfectly justified reaction to this.
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And by reading Cliffy's reply recently I have to agree (even if it is a hell-freezing-over moment) because I read an article also that the airline company had rules regarding obscene messages AND bombs or the like being portrayed. The man obviously didn't read the fine print when buying the tickets, or was too damned stupid to ask questions on what is considered appropriate, and comfortable attire for all. It is sad that his "civil rights" as claimed by Sonray, were violated, but Civil Rights refers to skin color, religious creed, etc. and not how you dress. I hear the same argument on fines given for kids and adults wearing jeans that hang below their asses,and thusly fines are given out on the basis of some form of disorderly conduct. Lesson learned from this: always ask the Airline what is considered proper attire, stow away the T.F. shirt or anything else, and just try not to draw undue attention to oneself.....
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i agree completely with cliffy.
if i was asked to take off my OP shirt, id think it was a bit stupid but id comply and be on my way with no fuss cos at the end of the day its the people who go on a rant that show themselves up.
if i was asked to take off my OP shirt, id think it was a bit stupid but id comply and be on my way with no fuss cos at the end of the day its the people who go on a rant that show themselves up.
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A Chinese cartoon where the robots turn into blingwads!
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