So, what would Ransack be made of?

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:24 pm

If Ransack was a character in the films rather than just a toy, how would he work? He's based on an Albatros WW1 biplane (what sort isn't particularly important, what with none of them having hardpoints under the wings; they generally also had some sort of gap in front of the cockpit so the pilot could, y'know, see), which would normally be made out of canvas and wood, apart from bits like the engine, fuel system and a little armour plating.

Now, is Ransack somehow made of this, despite wood most likely not existing on Cybertron, and it making him as brittle as hell (a human could kick through his wings, and he'd be highly flammable). Or is it within the realm of Cybertronians to successfully similate the look and even feel of this material with metal? When you think about it, Bumblebee has comfortable enough seats...

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:30 pm

Yeah, "simulated" material probably makes most sense (hell Bumblebee can even do the furry dice). They might use something akin to Star Trek replicators as well.

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:31 pm

Fail.

He would be made of Fail.

[/I win this thread]

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:31 pm

Are you Skidmark in disguise?

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:42 pm

Are you SHUTTHE****UP in disguise?

HA!

fantomdranzerx · Post by **fantomdranzerx** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:05 am

I think it would be simulated wood. Cybertronians can already duplicate tire rubber and window glass after receiving earth forms, so wood might be possible. With their level of technology, it's doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:08 am

And, y'know, human flesh.

Vin Ghostal · Post by **Vin Ghostal** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:19 pm

Not that it matters, since it's clear that Transformers can simulate foreign materials when taking on new forms...but can we actually say there aren't any trees on the movie version of Cybertron? We only caught a small glimpse of it, and it actually looked somewhat organic on the surface.

fantomdranzerx · Post by **fantomdranzerx** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:20 pm

Vin Ghostal wrote:Not that it matters, since it's clear that Transformers can simulate foreign materials when taking on new forms...but can we actually say there aren't any trees on the movie version of Cybertron? We only caught a small glimpse of it, and it actually looked somewhat organic on the surface.

Well, there are those towers in the first film that people refer to as trees...but those seem to be metallic. Still, compared to other Cybertrons, the movie one seems to have sand and dirt, as well as mountains. Not to mention the molten lava/Energon (?) flowing in the rivers.

Catalyst Dragon · Post by **Catalyst Dragon** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:23 am

I wonder... if he is made of "Simulated/Synthetic" wood and cloth, would he still burn like the real materials?

I suppose not though since Transformers appear in most canon to be quite resistant to fire no matter what their mode is ment to simulate.

Would Botannica be flammable? that would be quite a Acheles heel.

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:55 pm

Catalyst Dragon wrote:I wonder... if he is made of "Simulated/Synthetic" wood and cloth, would he still burn like the real materials?

This is more what I was pondering... in the extreme case of Ransack, to simulate canvas the material would have to be spread pretty thinly. Now, not everything thin isn't weak, so it being a micro-thin layer of whatever metal/s Transformers are made from might stop him from being stupidly flammable, or prevent a human putting their foot straight through his leg without even trying that hard, but a pretty small Transformer whose hand is made out of the same substance, balled up instead of spread out? If Ransack was to get in a fight with someone relatively harmless like Jolt or Skids, surely he'd get literally torn apart?

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:01 pm

Hasbro in Not Thinking Something Through shock.

electro girl · Post by **electro girl** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:25 pm

Cliffjumper wrote: If Ransack was to get in a fight with someone relatively harmless like Jolt or Skids, surely he'd get literally torn apart?

Well he did give them a bit of trouble in the UK magazine comic until Bumblebee showed up.

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:57 pm

Yeh, but that comic was utter, utter shit (revolving entirely around "Skids and Mudlfap know something but no-one will listen OH NOES!!!!") and can be dismissed easily.

electro girl · Post by **electro girl** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:22 pm

Cliffjumper wrote:Yeh, but that comic was utter, utter shit (revolving entirely around "Skids and Mudlfap know something but no-one will listen OH NOES!!!!") and can be dismissed easily.

The extra 3 or so quid a month I have from not buying it anymore means that sometimes I can afford to go out.

Cliffjumper · Post by **Cliffjumper** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:43 pm

So... do they have rubber tyres, do you reckon? They seem to leave skid marks (behave!), cf. Prime & Jazz' synchronised spin-turns in the first film. Are they leaving bits of themselves on the road?

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:29 pm

You have far too many thoughts.

Post by **inflatable dalek** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:21 pm

It's astro-rubber.

You leave bits of yourself everywhere you go so Prime and Jazz leaving tire prints behind isn't that much of a problem for them I would think.

Vin Ghostal · Post by **Vin Ghostal** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:51 pm

Cliffjumper wrote:So... do they have rubber tyres, do you reckon? They seem to leave skid marks (behave!), cf. Prime & Jazz' synchronised spin-turns in the first film. Are they leaving bits of themselves on the road?

Because I care.

Halfshell · Post by **Halfshell** » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:01 pm

22. Relaxing.

"Not doing anything" actually counts as a hobby now, does it? No wonder all* Americans are obese.

* Yes, that's right. All. Every. Single. One.