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New Costco exclusive Universe two-pack: Cybertron Galaxy Force Optimus Prime and Crumplezone in new packaging - OUT now

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:17 pm
by Nevermore

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:40 pm
by ganon578
Cool, but I don't get the point of a straight re-pack. Well, I do, it's called $$$$$ :nonono:

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:13 pm
by Jaynz
Could be overstock. They're also molds that were fairly popular but not constantly repainted/rereleased already, etc... It's an easy enough set to pass up if you want to (being part of the UT and not specifically classics), but nice enough if you missed out, want a new 'Prime', or what have you.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:24 pm
by electro girl
At least now rhere is something to do for that movie wingsabre repaint.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:27 pm
by secretcode
Actually, this Prime isn't new Electro. It was a late Cybertron repaint. Never did see it in stores though. Like Vanguard said, odds are it's just overstock just like most other Universe Repacks.

EDIT: Funny thing is, I know people that still want this mold, in Ultra Magnus colors. You mean the ONE time we don't get a Magnus repaint, people want it?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:43 pm
by wolfbolt86
I did see some of the Galaxy Force Primes, but my little brother already had a Prime from that series. I don't think I will get them if they come out in the States.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:48 pm
by electro girl
secretcode wrote:Actually, this Prime isn't new Electro. It was a late Cybertron repaint. Never did see it in stores though. Like Vanguard said, odds are it's just overstock just like most other Universe Repacks.

EDIT: Funny thing is, I know people that still want this mold, in Ultra Magnus colors. You mean the ONE time we don't get a Magnus repaint, people want it?
I think you missed my point secretcode, I think I wordeed it wrong, oh well.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:04 pm
by Nevermore
TFVanguard wrote:Could be overstock.
Overstock from where?
- Stores? Shipping back and forth must be damn expensive. Also, how many units remained unsold so this would actually be commercially viable?
- The factory? Again, how many extra units did they produce?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:58 pm
by Sunstreaker2
Neato. Too bad I already have Dark Crumplezone...

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:02 pm
by Jaynz
Nevermore wrote:Overstock from where?
- Stores? Shipping back and forth must be damn expensive. Also, how many units remained unsold so this would actually be commercially viable?
- The factory? Again, how many extra units did they produce?
Assuming over or back stock and not a limited new run...

Some chains CAN and do return stock to companies that doesn't sell, with the cost being deferred to Hasbro over it. If that's the case, then it's possible that they got enough (say, a few thousand units) to warrant a limited store 'repak' exclusive.

It could also be an over-production issue, where they simply didn't ship the last parts due to orders or something. (Such as a wave falling out of circulation even though some are still in the warehouse.)

Either way, it's still cheaper to repackage and move the 'dead plastic' in some other way than to just sit on it, or even dissasemble and melt it down for new plastic.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:02 pm
by secretcode
Sunstreaker2 wrote:Neato. Too bad I already have Dark Crumplezone...
Isn't that a different mold though?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:15 pm
by wolfbolt86
secretcode wrote:Isn't that a different mold though?
I think it was a retool of the original mold.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:19 pm
by Detective Barricade
I don't need that Optimus Prime, but I could use Crumplezone. If they had repackaged Crumplezone with Ransack, then I'd get it. As is, PASS.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:47 am
by Nevermore
wolfbolt86 wrote:I think it was a retool of the original mold.
It's one of the most drastically every-part-is-different-from-the-original-even-though-the-basic-structure-is-still-the-same "retools" right there with K-9. To a degree where you really can't say anymore whether it's really a retool or a brand new mold based on the original one.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:04 am
by Detective Barricade
Nevermore wrote:It's one of the most drastically every-part-is-different-from-the-original-even-though-the-basic-structure-is-still-the-same "retools" right there with K-9. To a degree where you really can't say anymore whether it's really a retool or a brand new mold based on the original one.
Didn't all they do was add cannons and add extra "fins" to the front?:confused: And wouldn't Classics Ramjet fit into the same category as well?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:40 am
by Clay
Detective Barricade wrote:Didn't all they do was add cannons and add extra "fins" to the front?:confused: And wouldn't Classics Ramjet fit into the same category as well?
No, it's quite drastically different. I'll make a note to write a review of it... I thought I already did, but I guess not.
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Originally Posted by Nevermore View Post
Overstock from where?
- Stores? Shipping back and forth must be damn expensive. Also, how many units remained unsold so this would actually be commercially viable?
- The factory? Again, how many extra units did they produce?
Assuming over or back stock and not a limited new run...
Some chains CAN and do return stock to companies that doesn't sell, with the cost being deferred to Hasbro over it. If that's the case, then it's possible that they got enough (say, a few thousand units) to warrant a limited store 'repak' exclusive.
I would say Vanguard is right on this. When Hasbro starts a new line, most stores here will either put the remainder of the preceding line on clearance shortly thereafter or the stock will disappear entirely overnight. I assume it's Hasbro itself that recalls the old product to make shelf space for the new line.

I'd imagine it has a lot to do with individual store managers instead of chain-wide policy. The Walmart here in Murray doesn't usually put TF stuff on clearance, but the Walmarts in Benton and Mayfield (each still local for me) are very quick to mark the prices down. The Murray store seemed to ship Movie Voyagers back to Hasbro; they had many Offroad Ironhides and Ratchets, and the standard two-dozen Starscreams, and all that stock disappeared immediately once the store put out Animated Voyagers.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:04 am
by secretcode
My local Wal-Mart did quite the opposite. Not only did the movie toys remain but they INCREASED THE F***ING PRICE.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:40 am
by Notabot
Detective Barricade wrote:Didn't all they do was add cannons and add extra "fins" to the front?
HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE FINS????!!
I really liked my Dark Crumplezone figure for so long. I saw nothing wrong with him. But now, knowing that I probably threw away parts, he'll look incomplete to me forever. I was better off not knowing. I will go be sad now.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:13 am
by Nevermore
Notabot wrote:HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE FINS????!!
I really liked my Dark Crumplezone figure for so long. I saw nothing wrong with him. But now, knowing that I probably threw away parts, he'll look incomplete to me forever. I was better off not knowing. I will go be sad now.
The fins were included in a small baggy stuck under the cardboard tray.

I remember a lot of people not realizing this and throwing the packaging away.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:04 pm
by Treadshot A1
secretcode wrote:EDIT: Funny thing is, I know people that still want this mold, in Ultra Magnus colors. You mean the ONE time we don't get a Magnus repaint, people want it?
They want the white. So that's it's easier to bash into Victory Saber/Star Saber. Seriously, read the corresponding thread in teh kitbashing forum.
Nevermore wrote:The fins were included in a small baggy stuck under the cardboard tray.

I remember a lot of people not realizing this and throwing the packaging away.
Wow!, i always thought it was a repaint. Don't have either, so no need for me to worry. Maybe in, like, 20 or so years, they'll be worth a fortune with the fins. :lol: