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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:29 pm
by Denyer

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:42 pm
by Warcry
Those both look pretty sweet! I'll definitely need to track down Ricochet. Not sure if I need another Swoop or not but I suppose that'll depend on whether these are selling for regular Deluxe price, or a jacked-up MSRP like Counterpunch, Repugnus and Blast-Off were.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:18 pm
by Skyquake87
Er, so Ricochet looks nice....

Haven't really found much to get excited about with POTP, tbh. It's definitely felt like a line that's been treading water somewhat. There's only been the Terrorcons and Predacons that I've got a lot out of.

Siege looks decent, but ...I dunno if I can muster up anymore enthusiasm for another round of G1 updates.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:17 pm
by Clay

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:23 pm
by Skyquake87
Wow. That's a lot. Nice figure, but... wow. $400... What was MP10? About $100 or so..?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:57 pm
by Unicron
Skyquake87 wrote:Wow. That's a lot. Nice figure, but... wow. $400... What was MP10? About $100 or so..?
I think it ran $130-150 on initial release in the US.

That V3 OP does look pretty sweet, but not $440 sweet

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:24 pm
by Clay
MP10 was $120 the one time I saw it at TRU before the stock disappeared.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:57 pm
by Denyer
Think I paid about fifty quid for MP-01, and the designs have been downhill since that.

It's a gift to bootleggers, isn't it?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:05 am
by Unicron
Generations Book 2019 has pics detailing the transformation.

That is one hell of a transformation. People also seem to be saying it'll have some manner of sound gimmick

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:29 pm
by Warcry
So apparently they'll make a toy of anyone nowadays...

I have no idea who "Greenlight" is, but the comments make it sound like she was random background extra in some cartoon episode. I was about to make a snide remark about that until I remembered I own a toy of Acid Storm. I guess Hasbro is trying to cater to the folks who were annoyed that not every POTP figure was part of a distinct team, and wanted a full set of girls to combine with Elita?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:25 pm
by Warcry
And on the reissue front...

Optimus Prime...without the trailer?

Astrotrain won a fan vote.

Both choices I can get behind! I've actually been thinking for years about tracking down a used Prime cab to go with the trailer that survived my childhood, so this is right up my alley, even if it's a bit surprising overall. And I don't recall ever seeing the early 2000s Astrotrain reissue in stores at all.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:46 pm
by Denyer
Pretty nice, might be tempted by a Prime. :up:

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:29 am
by Skyquake87
Interesting. Wonder if the trailer mold is no longer viable or if this is just to make a Prime reissue cheaper? Not interested in another Astrotrain reissue. He's not the greatest Triple-Changer, or classic toy out there.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:18 pm
by Denyer
I'd say cost. There are probably a decent number of Prime moulds that've survived or been added to over the years, but the trailer makes it a larger ticket item and adds to shipping and storage. Also fewer toy-specific stores that'll bet on selling them.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:59 pm
by Warcry
Yeah, I could see Walmart being a bit gunshy about selling Prime with all his accessories. Especially if Devastator didn't sell as well as the other, smaller releases in this year's wave. Without the trailer I'm guessing Prime would sell for somewhere in the same neighborhood as Hot Rod or Starscream.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:23 am
by Denyer
Possible/probable Bumblebee movie Prime. Quite a neat aesthetic.

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https://i.imgur.com/qBC2FBt.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/LjH2YKU.jpg

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:52 am
by Hound
Remember when Michael Bay told all of us fans that if you made a Transformers movie with TFs that had original TF designs they would look terrible on screen?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:13 pm
by Denyer
Arguably it was sort of true... rendering has improved in the last ten years and the films "get away with" the CGI to an extent because of being over-complicated and fast-moving so the audience doesn't get a lot of chance to focus on shots that haven't been heavily tweaked.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:29 pm
by Warcry
Yeah, he was right in the sense that you couldn't just toss G1 Prime on-screen beside live-action footage without it looking silly, and the traditional designs definitely needed to be revised to work on the big screen. But he was also clearly using that as an excuse for some decisions that were based on style, not need. Because the Bee movie designs prove it was entirely possible to keep the G1 silhouettes intact and make the characters distinctive and recognizable, while still making them fit better alongside real-life scenes (and really, while CGI tech has improved in the last decade I'm sure they could have done this in 2007 if they'd really wanted to). Making them heavily detailed with lots of visible mechanical parts was probably unavoidable, but turning them into monstrous-shaped, colourless whorls made up entirely of spikes, greebles and tin foil? Nah. Bay just thought it would look cooler that way.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:32 pm
by inflatable dalek
I'm still hoping the trailer used unfinished CGI, but I think the Cybertron bit in it kind of prooves Bay's claim, it looks incredibly cheap and nasty, like an escaped computer game cut scene.