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Old 2016-03-12, 06:16 PM   #41
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Old 2016-03-13, 08:55 PM   #42
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So people on twitter have found about three instances of characters having headaches around Getaway.

And the Necrobot calling his gaff a shell of a world...
 
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Old 2016-03-13, 09:03 PM   #43
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I still think Chromedome's got something to do with this. In fact the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Getaway got to him... somehow
 

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Old 2016-03-16, 10:47 PM   #44
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Totally agree with Patapsco about Getaway’s logic. Could you imagine the Autobots giving Tarn the same freedom after everything he’s done, even if you did put him on poison fuel?

Really interested in whose ‘gun shadow’ Red identifies. It has to be someone that Max would also identify. I don’t know if there’s evidence Max has ever met the DJD, so perhaps its Megatron or (long shot) Overlord? That may also help explain why they haven’t had their T-cogs and brains ripped out.

One tiny thing that made me wonder the moment I saw it, was that Milne has drawn Blaster’s ears pointing forwards. He’s always drawn then pointing backwards, and I’m sure, looking at his meticulous artwork that he would never get such a thing wrong. I wonder if it means something to someone?

I also wonder if the Galactic Council will somehow save Rodimus and Co, due in part to the latter saving the organics from the Rust Giants, and because they respect Magnus. Assuming that respect didn’t ebb away in the 2012 annual.

Its an incredibly dangerous move that Getaway should leave Megatron and the others to the fate of Tarn and the DJD. Isn’t he giving the DJD their most revered hero on a plate? Isn’t there a chance they could get Megatron off the poison fuel and see him regain who he once was, an inspiring figurehead? If there was any chance of that, then Getaway and every other Autobot would be in a far more dangerous situation.

But Getaway isn’t that silly, so perhaps he knows Tarn, and who Tarn really is. And by extension so Skids knows, and Magnus and Tarn both love the Empyrean Suite, and when you add Chromedome and Brainstorm (and Rewind), you have a select set of people all linked to the New Institute who will now be in the same issue, sharing the same panels. This must surely lead to some cool revelations!

I agree with Warcry too, about a link between Getaway and Tyrest (or whoever’s controlling Tyrest). The imaginative freaky freakster that is Tyrest... and all he could think to do was torture Getaway? I doubt it. And Knightdramon’s fantastic comment about Magnus’ right arm! Shocked when I read that! It must suggest that Tyrest has a part to play in this!

And it turn that must be backed up by the comment the Our Lost Light crew made when they found Magnus’ body on the Alternate Lost Light during the Slaughterhouse story, that someone knew exactly how to kill him and rip him out of his armour. If Tarn did that it, suggests he is linked to Tyrest, who may in turn be working with the New Institute (though that’s just my guess and its groundless).

In the backup strip, in one panel Swerve has a sign above his bar which is half out of shot. I’m guessing it was supposed to read ‘**** OFF MEGATRON’. Very amusing :-)

Loved Tailgate’s Powerpuff Girls impersonation when taking down the Giganto-giant Rust guy.

And found it interesting that in the final panel where Megatron and the others have come out to face the music, that way off in the background is Nightbeat facing the other way, like he’s found something or is simply too busy to come out and get mangled with the others. Definitely up to something!
 



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Old 2016-03-16, 11:13 PM   #45
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Everyone is so hung up on what Getaway did to the "fan favourites", and to give them their stupid social media name #teamrodimus (jesus fricking christ) they're ignoring the very real, very true and completely logical points about Megatron, Rodimus and the frankly pathetic state of their quest as it stands. I'd like to imagine Roberts wrote it that way as a direct f*** you to sections of the fandom - the characters you love are terrible, I've made them terrible and here's why they're terrible. It's not the first time Roberts has made sly digs about the people who read the book (Dalek's comment about what Roberts said about Grimlock at the signing, the second season quip in the back-up strip)

The final panel is framed strangely, but I don't think the DJD and chums are that close to the Necrobot's Fortress Of Robotic Registry Services. Another thing I like about the panel is the little details - Velocity fixing Nautica's leg while Skids is comforting her, Ten holding a lot of the sparkflowers, Cyclonus patting the heads of Swerve and Tailgate

And yes, the banner in Swerve's is meant to say exactly what you think it's meant to say
 

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Old 2016-03-16, 11:31 PM   #46
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Another odd thing in that final panel; Whirl also in the background is looking down like he's ashamed (that's very un-Whirl), and he's got nothing to be ashamed about yet. Or does he also have an interesting past with the DJD?

Rung was good again. Not so much about the disassembling comment, but the 'extremely uncomfortable' thing he heard. If Brainstorm's briefcase offers up glimpses into the past, will the parallel continuities also offer up something which reveals Rungs true purpose before our Rung is ready? Because its starting to feel like Rung is actually aware what his alt-mode is for in our Universe, as well as the Rung from the final page of Elegant Chaos.

With just a single panel the Scavengers were great yet again. Krok's body imprint on the wall from some issues back is brilliant. And Grimlock looks like a giant, incredibly dangerous cat sitting with them. Which he is.

Nightbeat made a specific hand gesture when he says they only have six hours left. It kinda looks like he's shading his eyes from the light, but recon it could also be a signal to someone.

My personal wish is that Delta Magnus pops up in this arc somehow. Whilst I'm trying to think who would be the perfect actor to do Getaway's charming voice. That guy who plays Jaime Lannister, perhaps?
 
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Old 2016-03-17, 07:12 AM   #47
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I'm more ed Norton for getaway.

Just on the point of megatron being let off, don't forget that this was somewhat imposed on optimus and the autobots. The trial was being viewed by all the neutrals and possibly the other races. They had to show they could follow their own laws. And don't forget, a key point of much of the last five years of idw, especially Roberts stuff is that the autobots are just as guilty as the cons in the eyes of those outside the war.

Also in real life terms, its not unusual for one time terrorists to evolve to legit polticians in the pursuit of peace - martin McGuinness of Sinn Fein being the most close to home example. Getaway, for all his rightful justification, isn't looking at the bigger picture.
 
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Old 2016-03-17, 09:22 AM   #48
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If Optimus had, upon hearing Megatron declaring the legal loophool that he can only tried by the Knights Of Cyberton, decided to look up Megatron in a maximum security prison indefinitely until the Knights (who may or may nor exist) then that would have been perfectly acceptable. But I'm sure that Megatron was counting on Prime's "need for redemption going beyond the inane" and that Prime would do whatever it took to not imprison Megatron, let alone execute him.

And of course Getaway's not looking at the bigger picture, he's also conveniently forgetting that he owes his very existence to Megatron and the war, as do a lot of other Autobots. Anyway, I'm sure at some point, someone is going to turn around to Getaway and at "What have you done?" Also, Roberts has already stated that Getaway's voice is from New Zealand
 

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Old 2016-03-17, 12:09 PM   #49
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Is Getaway Brett? I mean "Brit"?

Do the DJD only kill Deception's who are flouting Megatron's rules and Autobots who get in the way? They have no reason to kill Neutrals, right? I thought I read this somewhere. If so why kill Censerre? Or was it because he was trying to block their message to the Lost Light and was therefore guilty of helping the Autobots and Megatron?

[Edit] I thought there would be at least one utterly horrible death in this issue from one of the crew. Glad there wasn't, but now I'm thinking who should go. I don't want him to, but is Skids' number up? Almost everything we need to know about him has been revealed. Just a few bits left now that link him to Tarn and Magnus. I feel like its going to have to be Skids to take down Tarn and save Megatron.

[Edit 2] Maybe the 'gun shadow' across Nightbeat's face is Getaways?
 

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Old 2016-03-17, 11:29 PM   #50
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Can't remember if it was here or elsewhere but Nightbeat is pointing to his head because that's where he got blapped (it's a proper word) in the head all the way back in Spotlight: Hardhead.

As for the DJD, who knows? They've proven that they only go after targets on 'The List' and as 'The List' consisted solely of Megatron after #39, maybe they're just killing people who Megs just happened to have come into contact with. What does slightly unnerve me is Ravage and Megatron's chat when they first come back to Necrobotland. Ravage specifically says "what's done is done". But what is done? Did they both do something when they were last there, or is Ravage simply saying that coming there in the first place and the revelation of Megatron's memorial is what's done? I mean, it's probably the latter but still

So, as for who's going to bite it: Skids, Swerve & Brainstorm have all served their purpose storywise and Skids is definitely becoming a storyline crutch/magic escape rope in the same way that I can imagine SuperDuperTailgate will do in the future. Cyclonus' arc *should* have finished in #47 but that didn't happen. In fact, a good old fashioned massacre of who's with Rodimus will finally let some other characters hopefully have a chance to shine, because if they all survive and become the sole characters in the book going forward I'm probably going to end up dropping it
 

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Old 2016-03-18, 08:26 AM   #51
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So, as for who's going to bite it: Skids, Swerve & Brainstorm have all served their purpose storywise and Skids is definitely becoming a storyline crutch/magic escape rope in the same way that I can imagine SuperDuperTailgate will do in the future. Cyclonus' arc *should* have finished in #47 but that didn't happen. In fact, a good old fashioned massacre of who's with Rodimus will finally let some other characters hopefully have a chance to shine, because if they all survive and become the sole characters in the book going forward I'm probably going to end up dropping it
This again? So after 50+ issues (nearly 5 years) of the book being about a core group of characters you want to massacre all those characters because... other characters we don't know need their spot in the sun?

We'll obviously get a few deaths and some fresh faces coming in but there seems to be a view that once a characters back story is explored, well **** it, that's him done. We've had 50 issues of new back story but sure, lets bung that out so that Bluestreak can be the focus. Why? Because Bluestreak! It's like killing off the entire bridge crew from TNG at the end of season 3 just so we could focus on ensign terry - we never get to hear about him!

Just don't get the fandom here sometimes - we have 2 ongoings and a possible 3rd all with huge casts and you guys still want to have more new characters to replace the established ones because there is some perceived neglect of a toy with a great paragraph on the back of the box. Fair enough if you don't like the current cast, no problem there, but its like some of you want to go back to a Hasbro influenced toy of the week approach.

God, that was a bit ranty for early morning. Apologies and all that.
 
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Old 2016-03-18, 09:55 AM   #52
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Only read the preview so far(yeah, I spoilered myself. Ehh, my curiousity tends to get the better of me), and I figured Nightbeat's comment was more Roberts' commentary on the Titan Returns version of Nightbeat.

Ye gods, I wish I hadn't looked that up......
 

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Old 2016-03-18, 04:51 PM   #53
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This again? So after 50+ issues (nearly 5 years) of the book being about a core group of characters you want to massacre all those characters because... other characters we don't know need their spot in the sun?

We'll obviously get a few deaths and some fresh faces coming in but there seems to be a view that once a characters back story is explored, well **** it, that's him done. We've had 50 issues of new back story but sure, lets bung that out so that Bluestreak can be the focus. Why? Because Bluestreak! It's like killing off the entire bridge crew from TNG at the end of season 3 just so we could focus on ensign terry - we never get to hear about him!

Just don't get the fandom here sometimes - we have 2 ongoings and a possible 3rd all with huge casts and you guys still want to have more new characters to replace the established ones because there is some perceived neglect of a toy with a great paragraph on the back of the box. Fair enough if you don't like the current cast, no problem there, but its like some of you want to go back to a Hasbro influenced toy of the week approach.

God, that was a bit ranty for early morning. Apologies and all that.
Have you seen The Wire? Because that somehow managed to spread the storytelling load across a lot more than 17 principle characters and the narrative never suffered. You can shuffle characters into the background and then bring them back when appropriate but if it's the same core (Rodimus, Tailgate, Chromedome, Rewind, Skids, Swerve...) it gets bloody repetitive, that's all I'm railing against.

issue 34 - focuses on Bluestreak, Mainframe, Trailcutter and First Aid. Who appears at the end? Rung! The last two part Scavengers arc? All scavengers until... Rung appears! Even the disappearing Lost Light story had an alt Rewind and Skids show up after doing some superb stuff with Riptide, Nautica, Nightbeat et al. Roberts can do it, so why not clear out some characters and let some others shine?
 

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The good thing about Skids is he's not the ultimate get out clause. It was Rodimus who stopped the Sparkeater, and from what was shown Skids didn't make any difference to Overlord's rampage.

I'd like him to survive the next five issues if it subverts my way of thinking that when all has been revealed about a character there's nothing left to do but waste them. It would be cool to see how he develops from this point. He's totally at odds now with his good buddy Getaway, and they'd been like Bond and Alec Trevelyan. He's seen the horrible act that his other buddies the Duobots carried out on behalf of Skids' boss Prowl. He's got no friends left other than those on The Lost Light.

But it still seems like he's got to have one almighty showdown with Tarn, who could destroy him by blabbing about the smelting pool before Skids is ready, causing him to freeze up like "Till all are one" did to Overlord. Maybe Megatron has to save Skids, which would be nice after the latter put Megatron firmly in his place during Slaughterhouse.

Then once its over they can get their stash from the Re-up, kick Ziggy in the pants and save Frankie Sobotka.
 
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Another thing to bear in mind: according to Roberts, there are 450 odd Decepticons under Tarn/Deathsaurus' command, vs 17 Autobots half of whom can't fight. If all or most of them some how get out of this, it would be nothing short of a miracle.

And who's gonna give a f*** when it ain't their turn to give a f***?
 

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How many can Tailgate take out before he gets nailed by the sheer amount of guns and heavy hitters that'll be bearing down on him the moment they clock he's Super Nintendo-gate?

The DJD killed Black Shadow. Is it possible that Tailgate is now tougher than Black Shadow? At the moment he's standing in front of Cyclonus looking scared out of his wits.

All I can think of is Nightbeat is going to activate something, a shield or a mega-gardener or something. Then there'll be a significance about the planet being hollow. The plants must play a part. I think the execution at the beginning has got nothing to do with Tarn and the others.

Rodimus can't die because happy clappy Drift (thanks Whirl) insists that Rodimus is integral to the Knights mission.I'd like to see him die, but he's the reason the Lost Light is both lousy and interesting.

- 'Whose up for a fight"?
- Lets jump through that portal and see what happens.
- Off Meteor surfing so everyone else had to save themselves.

Where is Ratchet these days? Is he in the RID comic? I know he went off to be in Drift's four-parter, but now... What is he, a sleepy house cat?
 
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Where is Ratchet these days? Is he in the RID comic? I know he went off to be in Drift's four-parter, but what happened after that?
They're on their way back from that still. It's a long trip. Probably with a stopover at the Cosmic Carnival along the way
 
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How many can Tailgate take out before he gets nailed by the sheer amount of guns and heavy hitters that'll be bearing down on him the moment they clock he's Super Nintendo-gate?

The DJD killed Black Shadow. Is it possible that Tailgate is now tougher than Black Shadow? At the moment he's standing in front of Cyclonus looking scared out of his wits.

All I can think of is Nightbeat is going to activate something, a shield or a mega-gardener or something. Then there'll be a significance about the planet being hollow. The plants must play a part. I think the execution at the beginning has got nothing to do with Tarn and the others.

Rodimus can't die because happy clappy Drift (thanks Whirl) insists that Rodimus is integral to the Knights mission.I'd like to see him die, but he's the reason the Lost Light is both lousy and interesting.

- 'Whose up for a fight"?
- Lets jump through that portal and see what happens.
- Off Meteor surfing so everyone else had to save themselves.

Where is Ratchet these days? Is he in the RID comic? I know he went off to be in Drift's four-parter, but now... What is he, a sleepy house cat?
the other board I frequent loathe the DJD because their abilities are so inconsistent. They whomped Black Shadow pretty easily, but struggled against the Scavengers and Grimlock (well, for the first thirty seconds), and blew through the Alt Lost Light like a particularly hot knife through room temperature butter. They're just too goddamn powerful how do you defeat them without it sounding and reading like a giant cop out? It's going to take some literary gymnastics and hopefully no "deus ex Skids" to get out of it
 

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Was Deathsaurus Drifts boss back when Drift was Deadlock, or have I got that wrong? Maybe this'll mark his return. He'd want to go meet a weird hippy like the Necrobot (only no-one thought he was real for millions of years, now everyones on his doorstep).

Or perhaps (I'm really reaching now) something involving Terminus or Tusk? Would the revelation that Terminus is still alive re-ignite Megatrons love of The Motorcycle Diaries, fire missiles at North America and hurt a kitten?
 
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... but struggled against the Scavengers and Grimlock (well, for the first thirty seconds)
Do you think that's fair, though? I thought they were having fun with the Scavengers. They were more or less kicking them about, Ruckus was lucky for a moment with his Battletech suit but another moment or two and they'd have all been pate.

We came in at the very end of the Black Shadow killing. He could've been giving them a fair fight for a long time for all we know. Or maybe Megatron gave Tarn the killswitch code to use when necessary on an errant Phase Sixer? Its been ages since I read Devastation, where Starscream got the code to disable Sixshot. I forget how he got it. Maybe Megatron trusted Tarn enough?

All chronic speculation on my part. But it could explain the seeming inconsistency in power levels.
 
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