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Old 2014-05-20, 08:12 PM   #161
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If you can get past the sluggishness of the site, Masterforce seems to be having a clearance sale... still a bit of third party stuff at time of writing.

http://www.masterforce.co.uk/

Have just acquired my first piece of original art. Self-contained story page and the payoff from the b&w short in #228. They also have MTMTE pages at the moment.

edit: Not a very good photo, should've taken one before framing... but have left it without messing with the brightness to show the lettering overlays.

http://i.imgur.com/pI9Insk.jpg

 

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Old 2014-05-21, 06:51 PM   #162
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Kapow are also having a stock reduction sale that includes third party and MP items. I've bitten the bullet on the Fansproject not-Brainstorm, and will figure out the faceplate later. Doubt very much the Hasbro one will be as nice.

http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/overstock-sale.html

Less fussed about Code, but might end up going a bit completist on the FP Headmasters...
 
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Old 2014-05-21, 09:26 PM   #163
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Smart Robin is an extremely efficient design, and clever as well. I think you'll like it.

In other third party news, here's a Computron called Quantron. It looks a tad busy for me.
 
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Old 2014-05-21, 09:59 PM   #164
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Here are some more pictures of the individual not-Technobots. Have to say that I like the parts greater than the sum. Although I will acknowledge that they came up with something to do with the giant gestalt-sized gun that otherwise sits uselessly on Computron's back.
 
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Old 2014-05-21, 10:13 PM   #165
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Those individual Technobots look horrible. None of them look anything like the originals with the exception of Lightspeed, who is sort of a twisted, funhouse-mirror version of himself. And Computron doesn't look like much either. Just an overdetailed mess like a lot of third-party toys that aren't executed properly.

I coveted them so much as a kid, seeing badly-realized Technobots pains me.
 
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Old 2014-05-21, 10:19 PM   #166
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I coveted them so much as a kid, seeing badly-realized Technobots pains me.
That's what I thought at first too. But, ignoring their intended homages, I kind of like them for themselves. As a representation of Computron and the Technobots? Maybe not so much. Just as transforming mecha that remind me 1980's sci-fi cover art? In that vein, I like them.
 
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Old 2014-05-21, 10:27 PM   #167
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It's the first one I've been tempted to go for as a combiner and I like them individually as well. Updated but very recognisable.

Pretty sure I'll have done my toy shopping for the year way before AutoAssembly.
 
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Old 2014-05-22, 06:17 AM   #168
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Looks tempting for me as well. No, I don't care about the Technobots, but as a sci-fi mecha, especially their individual modes, it looks aces.
 
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Old 2014-05-24, 01:38 PM   #169
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So...my take on the 3rd party wars...

Too much nice stuff coming out, not all of it fits or budgets in my collection.

I'm very torn between the FT Dinobots and the MMC Predacons/Sixshot and that GLORIOUS Nova Prime they showed last year.

The FT Dinobots [...the two they showed] look very nice, they're doing a Grimlock that can replace the MP one I have, and the final push for me is the toy colours Slag that I need to see in order to decide which decos to push ahead for.

The MMC Predacons look like engineering marvels to me, very thick, stocky, nicely built [can somebody comment on the heft of them?], are generally cheaper than the Dinos [two for the price of 1 dino], merge into an AMAZING thing that I have no prior media attachment to...but some issues with the rhino prevent me from really getting into the group.

I was thinking of buying at least one Predacon and the Black Sixshot before AA, and buy some other preds there...but I don't know how the rhino issues [defective elbow joint I think? Swords that snap at the handles] are fixable. These figures look great but as I said before, I have no real attachment to the bots at all.

All other 3rd party at the moment look awesome [especially maketoys and the FP headmasters] but are too small for my MP only collection.

Thoughts/advice? I'm always going back and forth between these!
 
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Old 2014-05-24, 02:38 PM   #170
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I've got Bovis... decent weight and the whole package (box, mini-comic, etc) is very professionally done. Haven't transformed him much -- I display in robot mode for the most part -- but haven't noticed the elbow gears mashing so far. The weapons take a bit of care to fit into the hands.

Looking forward to Scoria -- will repaint one head black, most likely -- and toy colours Soar, but wasn't planning to replace Grimlock. If you don't have the latter the FT one can probably be relied upon to fix minor niggles (such as the raised shoulders) with the official one, though.

There are plenty of nice CHUG-scale third party pieces, although if the MT Technobots are the same size as the FP Stunticons that's getting to be on the small side for either CHUG or MP.

I think my favourite 3P releases so far have been FP Weirdwolf (currently can be had for about forty quid, which is a much more realistic price than it was released at) and the MI Jumpstarters I got last year at AA, plus Quakewave lives up to its hype pretty well. And I really like the 3P add-ons available for various CHUG Voyagers.

Overall, screw scale. A mix just means it's easier to display things in multiple rows. Specialising, completism, etc. take the fun out of collecting.

If I were you I'd wait until AA and see what impression they make. Odds are there'll be a decent selection -- Omegalock are there this year as well as others.
 
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Old 2014-05-24, 04:41 PM   #171
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I haven't had any problems with Fortis (the rhino). Granted, I never tried forcing the dagger weapons into his hands as I was more interested with the blasters. I didn't have any problems with the elbows... what specifically should I be aware of or can check for you? They're now in non-use for the moment as Fortis and Bovis are currently merged with Leo Dux into an armless Predaking.

Also, while I understand the appeal of scale (I have a large Binaltech collection to this day), I've never let it persuade me against something I found interesting. If you're primary concern is a character diorama, I can see that being a bigger consideration, but as it is I tend to look at the figures puzzle-first, fiction-second. Usually.
 
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Old 2014-05-24, 05:37 PM   #172
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I *believe* the issue is that the Rhino uses an identical elbow joint between his arms, and on one of them the gears get eaten up because of that. I asked for pictures at tfw to see if it was one guy or a widespread problem. That, one of the legs [don't know which] having too strong a connection on the add-on leg/foot and the handles of the knives being prone to snapping on the arms/palms are the issues I remember reading about.

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There will be a toy-colour Scoria with a black robot head and non-chromed horns. I'm waiting to see that first before deciding on the rest.

I'm -kind- of worried about scale in the sense that I want most of the figures of mine to be around a certain size [not necessarily right size between them]. If that 3rd party Warden [Fort Max] was around MP Rodimus head height, I'd have jumped on that, for instance.

Predacons, dinobots and sixshot are the only ones who seem to fit that requirement [however cool they are, all FP headmasters are like 70-80 quid regular retail, and the MMC Predacons vary from 60 to 90 and are much bulkier and substantial].

Still a toss between all of them. In the end, yes, if the toy is good enough I can ignore the fiction [or lack of], but for such "expensive" nifty releases, I'd like some background on the bot I'm committing these funds for
 

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Old 2014-05-27, 07:45 PM   #173
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Looking closely I've got a bit of chew on one Bovis elbow, but it seems to be a fairly minor cosmetic issue even if the small teeth get rounded out.

FansToys have announced "Sever" as Snarl...

http://i.imgur.com/PkHgYgk.jpg


I think they'd do best to get Scoria out before opening orders for this one.
 
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Old 2014-05-27, 08:56 PM   #174
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-IF- I'll go with FT Dinobots I'm probably getting toy Scoria and Soar [Scoria was announced but never shown]. Wonder if those two will be the only ones with toy distinct decos as well. Not much difference between Grimlock/Sludge and Snarl right?

A for effort from fantoys for these. Looks like a LOT of people are getting iffy about Scoria taking so long to come out.
 
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Old 2014-05-27, 09:15 PM   #175
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IIRC the delay is to make sure quality control is in place, so can't fault them on that.

All of the producers are going to lose out if they rapidly make lots of large releases, though.

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Wonder if those two will be the only ones with toy distinct decos as well. Not much difference between Grimlock/Sludge and Snarl right?
Not much difference with Scoria either -- put a black head in, maybe another set of horns, and the body is mostly the same.

Clearer communication on the toy deco (and maybe assurance the Grimlock platform shoes would be available separately) would also get more people to buy in, I think.
 
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Old 2014-05-28, 09:02 PM   #176
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I think that's what is supposed to change on Scoria---black head, red horns and maybe something on the dino head---do not know about that last one.

I'm just waiting to see how it looks, no great attachment to either scheme, though I prefer the black head in this case. Red head with that gloss blue eyes appears a bit tacky.

I haven't had any preorders put in so I can't comment on it, but some people are really losing their heads over at tfw2005 for the delays. Some guy also more or less said that FT is jumping the gun because BBTS put up preorders for Snarl before Scoria is even out.

the same BBTS who put out a preorder for MP Magnus, with a totally made up price, 1.5 years before release date.
 
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Old 2014-06-14, 12:47 AM   #177
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Warbotron 03, Not-Computron

Quite like the MakeToys Quantron more. For those not counting, this is unofficial Computron #2, to be preceded numerically by Warbotron 02, unofficial Menasor #2.

I don't mind the multiplicity of choice, but can't we get a third party Liokaiser already? It'd still be cheaper than the original.
 
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Old 2014-06-22, 12:35 AM   #178
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UniqueToys Cy-Kill homage...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8684949&type=1



ToyWorld Nemesis Orion...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8684949&type=3



PlanetX Sludge homage...

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...l#post11198786



FansProject Mindwipe homage...



Need to see better pics on the last one, but do like all of them.
 
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Old 2014-06-22, 08:19 AM   #179
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Orion in black looks nice. The original was too pink for my taste, it needed to be a much darker colour. Proportions are great except for the head--the entire figure would be better for me if it had longer and pointier antennae.

FOC Sludge looks nice, and is actually tempting to go after the whole set while Grimlock is still cheap. This entire set as a choice is actually cheaper [albeit smaller] than FT set.

Mindwipe does not look so great, but to be honest none of the other FX bots looked good at first to me, then I saw them transform and liked them a lot.

Search for toy dojo on facebook. They have some pictures of a very rough test shot from MMC's Nova Prime [inner robot only]. I've been waiting for that thing since last year, it's slated for a Q1 2015 release.

Still a long way off, but it will be mine
 
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Old 2014-06-23, 10:44 PM   #180
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...4923328&type=1

Slightly ironically didn't get any response to the last message I sent asking about buying something.

https://www.facebook.com/masterforce...287353/?type=1

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...l#post11217617

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...l#post11217563

Suspect there'll be a few places offering pre-orders (no comment from Transbridge/Omegalock, probably means they'll continue to be my port of call for FT dinos) but best bet for smaller things is likely to be eBay and going via the US site to include overseas sellers. Touch wood not having too many issues with the latter route.
 
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