"Rebirth" a lot more violent then the rest of the series?

Bluebee · Post by **Bluebee** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 3:57 am

I mean all of the Autobots on Cybertron die (albiet for only a few seconds). Daniel is chewed up and almost gets his arm ripped off. Magnus get mauled (off screen) by the "animals". The Decepticons are tortured/forced into joining with the Hive.

Just wanting peoples views on this.

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Starscreamsghost · Post by **Starscreamsghost** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 5:20 am

You're right, there's a lot of implied violence in "Rebirth" that exceeds much of the G1 cartoon. The gruesome destruction of Prime in "Dark Awakening" and some of the action in "Dweller in the Depths" are also up there on the violence scale.

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Optim Shi · Post by **Optim Shi** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 6:33 pm

Yeah, I actually had nightmares of the re-animated Prime from Dark Awakening...that was scary when I was 7!

dai-atlas2000 · Post by **dai-atlas2000** » Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:21 am

I think that Prime in Dark Awakening is quite frightening - obviously not frightening in the sense that it's a kids cartoon - but it's the very notion that the one guy who you thought you could ALWAYS rely on to always save the day losses control....it's makes you worry....

You're right about the level of violence in Rebirth - not on that scale since the Movie - which was a comparative blood bath...Although i always think that the scariest bit in TF:Tm is the bit where you actually see Prime flat-line on the heart monitor - added with that chilling music....the hero who should not die is taken from us (and the film isn't even half way through!)

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RID Scourge · Post by **RID Scourge** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 9:38 pm

Originally posted by Bluebee:
Daniel is chewed up and almost gets his arm ripped off.

Yeah, that was a good episode. Yeah Snapdragon!

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Blaster_86 · Post by **Blaster_86** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 9:48 pm

I still wish he died get fully eaten the thought of a dead daniel is cool albeit arcee would SOL with out a head.

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Djar][aCho · Post by **Djar][aCho** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:49 am

a war between giant robots and we are discussing violence increasing,,, still no blood and still no death continuity?? :-)
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Osku · Post by **Osku** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 8:59 am

Originally posted by Djar][aCho:
a war between giant robots and we are discussing violence increasing,,, still no blood and still no death continuity?? :-)

Haven´t seen it yet. Was there civilian casualties? Or even in the whole series?

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Bluebee · Post by **Bluebee** » Thu Dec 13, 2001 2:27 am

Note on Daniel getting chewed up by Snapdragon, Seibertron.com doesn't seem to have the pic' anymore

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It seems like Hasbro allowed a few liberaties(SP?) when it came to the characters for the last few eps.

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Edo · Post by **Edo** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 12:27 am

Originally posted by Bluebee:
Note on Daniel getting chewed up by Snapdragon, Seibertron.com doesn't seem to have the pic' anymore .

It seems like Hasbro allowed a few liberaties(SP?) when it came to the characters for the last few eps.

You mean like Bumblebee cheering in the backround in Rebirth (after he was changed to Gold Bug in The Return of Optimus Prime)?

Starscreamsghost · Post by **Starscreamsghost** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 12:39 am

I think he means more along the lines of Scourge and Galvatron acting rather out of character throughout "Rebirth"...

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RID Scourge · Post by **RID Scourge** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 12:55 am

Eh, the reason that they chewed up Daniel was so that people like me could finally say that Arcee enjoyed giving head to little boys.

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Bluebee · Post by **Bluebee** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 1:00 am

Weird thing is the story line seemed better than the movies, though that doesn't say much.

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Xilef_Darklight · Post by **Xilef_Darklight** » Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:58 am

As far as I'm conscerned, REBIRTH is the BEST ending we could ever have hoped for TF G1... there is a nice sense of finality, without killing off the decepticons,... For instance, we come full circle,... the series started off with Cybertron almost totally drained of energy,... and we finish the series with it fully RECHARGED... and we know the decepticons won't really return, 'cause the leadership is going to be disputed between 2 foes of approx. the same strengh... The guild vs. the decepticons... Plus, (and sorry for going a little religious here) Vector Sigma is like the God of the transformers... this great ball of light that created them, that was the first... and he knows everything... he has planned everything... he knew the autobots would eventually merge with organics to become an even more powerfull life form. It makes sense... Unity is power. ALL BECOME ONE... hehe (and on a funnier note, Unicron is like the devil.. if one believes in such things,...hehe this great big transformer. Evil.. he consumes and destroys what Vector Sigma has created. He also knows many things, has slaves as he dominates and controls the lives of the robots he influences (or "modifies" in this case),.. and yes... he has horns ! ;:-)