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Rack 'n Ruin 2015-01-03 01:13 PM

I have a feeling that Leader Megs' fusion cannon is clipped on the wrong way round. That would improve the look somewhat. Overall though, pass. Too ugly for my taste. Points for working tank treads, though.

Denyer 2015-01-03 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightdramon (Post 745465)
I sincerely hope he keeps that glorious silver, but I'm not holding me breath [for the most recent example, see Generations Crosscut].

Do they normally bother airbrushing the in-packaging shots?

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electro girl 2015-01-04 12:31 AM

I was torn between the G1 and Armada Megs but when I found out Armada Megs won't have his cool knife thing I thought I'd get G1 style instead.

inflatable dalek 2015-01-04 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightdramon (Post 745465)

MTMTE has been stated to be out of combiner wars overall. Since Combiner Wars start around issue 39 or so, and that's the beginning or middle of a DJD saga in MTMTE, there's no way they'd hop around for that.

MTMTE ISSUE 40 EXCLUSIVE EXTRACT:

Hot Spot: Oh no! Even though I and my Protectobots have used the new spark of combination gubbins to fight the DJD in the form of Defensor, my leg is now giving me jip! Who shall now save us!

Megatron: Don't worry, my new body also gifted to my by the spark of combination (which luckily zapped us from a distance when if was found in the main Combiner Wars comic without us needing to do a proper crossover) just happens to be a combiner as well. Protectobots form on me!

DEFENSORTRON: TAKE THAT TARN! IT MAY HAVE TURNED OUT YOU WEREN'T ACTUALLY ROLLER, BUT I'M ROLLERING ON YOU NOW!

If the comics are being used to promote these toys, and Megatron is getting not one but two big expensive toys in the line (albeit reworkings of the same mould), at least one of them will be in MTMTE. Best case scenario is he just starts looking like one of them (and after Armada Starscream it might not be the obvious one), alongside the Protectobots being both prominent and in their new toy forms as well, without any mention of combination.

Clay 2015-01-04 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unicron (Post 745456)
That's news to me. Still, I don't think that's quite enough to draw my interest. Probably need to wait for some in-hand or at least non-stock pictures (something like in a display case at a con).

Haven't actually seen the working treads confirmed anywhere; it's just something that I noticed in the picture. The tank uses four tracks instead of two, and none of them are broken up for the robot mode (indeed, the robot wears two sets as a backpack to accommodate them). Therefore, working treads.

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Since it hasn't been brought up in the thread yet, there were recent-ish reports of some other things for the Combiner Wars line:
Leader-class Ultra Magnus (listing spotted in some store's computer system)
Various Protectobots (also seen in a store's computer system)
Titan-class Devastator (I think this was just 'rumor' from someone who's given good info the past. Supposed to be something like a giftset of 6 Constructicons, basically being the Metroplex for this year: big ass item for the line.)
Yeah, the Protectobots can be reworked just from what's been shown so far: Streetwise as one of the Stunticon cars with a lightbar, First Aid from Off Road, and Blades from the helicopter Aerialbot. They could even cheat and have Groove be a car too and reuse another Stunticon. That'd really just leave Hotspot, who could be another version of the Prime / Motormaster mold.

As far as Devastator goes, could be neat. From what I understand, Titan class is more about price point than height, so I'd expect a Devastator to be shorter and much heavier than Metroplex.

EDIT: After looking at pictures of Offroad again, that may not work for First Aid after all. But the gist is the same.

Tantrum 2015-01-04 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay (Post 745478)
Yeah, the Protectobots can be reworked just from what's been shown so far: Streetwise as one of the Stunticon cars with a lightbar, First Aid from Off Road, and Blades from the helicopter Aerialbot. They could even cheat and have Groove be a car too and reuse another Stunticon. That'd really just leave Hotspot, who could be another version of the Prime / Motormaster mold.

I think they'd leave Groove as a motorcycle they can retool into Afterburner. I certainly hope that 4 out 5 Protectobots aren't just Stunticon retools. Some mold reuse is understandable, but they'd need to mix it up a little. If a team's going be made entirely out of reused molds, those molds should come from a variety of teams. If they want to recycle an entire team, maybe redo the Stunticons as Autobots, like in Masquerade.

The Stunticon and Arialbot they've replaced were the same ones left out of the Kre-O combiner sets. I wonder if that's a coincidence, or if they plan to revamp one member of each team. I know 4 member Kre-O teams were required by the combiner design; I just wonder how much thought they put into who gets left out.

Unicron 2015-01-04 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by inflatable dalek (Post 745477)
If the comics are being used to promote these toys, and Megatron is getting not one but two big expensive toys in the line (albeit reworkings of the same mould), at least one of them will be in MTMTE. Best case scenario is he just starts looking like one of them (and after Armada Starscream it might not be the obvious one), alongside the Protectobots being both prominent and in their new toy forms as well, without any mention of combination.

They don't necessarily have to work in the Combiner Wars McGuffin for the Protectobots to happen. Scientists, engineers, and medics on the ship, Megatron and his experience with combiners (was after them for a long time, even had a body intended to be part of Devastator at one point, so it stands to reason he has a fair bit of knowledge on the subject), nothing says Defensor can't be a development independent from the CW goings-on.

I could see Defensor being developed, and Megatron upgraded into one of the new toy bodies, in preparation for the inevitable DJD confrontation. Maybe more likely for a second run in, after a first one that goes poorly for the Lost Light.

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Originally Posted by Clay (Post 745478)
Yeah, the Protectobots can be reworked just from what's been shown so far: Streetwise as one of the Stunticon cars with a lightbar, First Aid from Off Road, and Blades from the helicopter Aerialbot. They could even cheat and have Groove be a car too and reuse another Stunticon. That'd really just leave Hotspot, who could be another version of the Prime / Motormaster mold.

As far as Devastator goes, could be neat. From what I understand, Titan class is more about price point than height, so I'd expect a Devastator to be shorter and much heavier than Metroplex.

As I recall, the Protectobot listings included several of the normal names, plus a new one: Rook. I forget if that was in place of or in addition to the normal 5.

And yeah, that's pretty much the standard thinking for how the Protectobot toys will go: bunch of remolds from the first two waves, possibly with a new mold or two mixed in. Though I'm still expecting Hotspot to share a base mold with Onslaught. Switch the head and swap the ladder for an artillery piece and you're pretty much there. Seems like a better option that Prime/Motormaster mold v3.
Could probably get First Aid and Swindle out of one, if they switch Swindle to a more APC-like alt mode instead of a jeep.

That's pretty much what I meant about Devastator. Not necessarily the size of Metroplex, but filling his role as big ticket item for the line this year. I recall people theorizing that a set of 6 Voyagers (or around that size) would fit the likely price point. The only question is do we get an optional Prowl-head to use with it...

Warcry 2015-01-04 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay (Post 745478)
EDIT: After looking at pictures of Offroad again, that may not work for First Aid after all. But the gist is the same.

The robot mode is pretty close IMO. The alt-mode being a pickup truck makes it a bit more interesting, though. I suppose they could remold him into a rescue SUV, but the extra mass would make the legs pretty clunky.

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Originally Posted by Tantrum (Post 745479)
If they want to recycle an entire team, maybe redo the Stunticons as Autobots, like in Masquerade.

That's actually in the offing too according to some of the rumours flying around.

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As I recall, the Protectobot listings included several of the normal names, plus a new one: Rook. I forget if that was in place of or in addition to the normal 5.

I think that Blades, Streetwise, First Aid and Rook were listed as Deluxes, with Groove as the Legends figure to compliment the group. So he's still slated to be a part of Defensor, just not a limb the way he was in G1. Looking at the CW Legends so far, I guess he'll either be the gestalt's chestplate or gun.

Skyquake87 2015-01-04 09:40 AM

My one wish out of all this toy excitement is that the comic book character models are left alone. It takes me out of the experience of reading the comics to see characters turn up wearing an entirely new body just because Hasbro are super keen for the 10,000 comic book readers to buy their toys...which would likely happen anyway, with or without the cross-promotion. Sigh.

Megatron looks alright from that pic above, a bit like his current comic book design. Looks better than that Optimus toy I've seen in the shops which looks far too bulky.

I wonder if Groove will be like Blackjack and form armour for Defensor...? Or a weapon like those Human Alliance Basics.

Knightdramon 2015-01-04 10:52 AM

This Megatron is based on the body he wears in RID from issues 14--end of Dark Cybertron, With some cues from the MTMTE body [big riffle splits in two handguns, fusion cannon appears detachable, is rumoured to have a switching autobot symbol].

Skyquake87 2015-01-04 09:28 PM

Had a look at some picks of Megs in alt mode and robot mode over at TFW 2005 and he looks pretty decent, all told. The Armada version somehow manages to be poorer than , well the original Armada toy... nice to see some newer lines recognised in the Generations line...although 2002 doesn't seem so far away to me.

Menasor looks pretty poor as a gestalt though. Its down to Motormaster, sadly. The truck mode is good, but the robot is just too bulky and weird looking and has a tiny tiny head in a box (I'd have just jettisoned this and risked fanboy ire myself as it looks crappy) in robot mode and Menasor himself also has a disproportionately small head and the limbs look really bulky and overshadow the torso altogether. The rest of the Stunticons look neat though and I am quite excited about them.

Denyer 2015-01-05 06:55 PM

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The comments thread is full of 3P photos and geewunners. I swear this fandom needs ****ing culling.

Knightdramon 2015-01-05 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Denyer (Post 745502)

The comments thread is full of 3P photos and geewunners. I swear this fandom needs ****ing culling.

Fully agree. The fandom has grown a tad too large for what it actually is.

I'd very easily take half these a$$holes and trap them in 2004-2006 where the very best G1-ish we had were the G1 reissues and the occasional homage in Energon and Cybertron.

A Megatron like this, 10 years ago, would make their brains POP from excitement.

We are spoiled for choice, I guess. Trust me when I say that no other fandom has seen such a growth in the past 7 years.

Knightdramon 2015-01-05 09:16 PM

By the way, it's confirmed by hasbro that we will be able to display him as an Autobot as well.

I hope it's not a sticker and there's some sort of moving panel somewhere.

Clay 2015-01-11 04:45 PM

Surprise! The Insecticons have been reissued again.

Honestly I didn't know they were coming out again. And with the price of $80 (!), they can keep them. They were just reissued five (?) years ago at half that price...

Warcry 2015-01-11 05:55 PM

I think we only heard the first rumours about a new Insecticon reissue around Christmas. I'm surprised their out already.

That price is insane! You could probably track down all three originals in good condition for less than $80 these days.

Apparently there's a set of Coneheads coming out too, but if they want $80 for the bugs they'll probably be asking something stupid like $200 for the bigger guys.

Clay 2015-01-11 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Warcry (Post 745663)
Apparently there's a set of Coneheads coming out too, but if they want $80 for the bugs they'll probably be asking something stupid like $200 for the bigger guys.

More's the pity. I could actually go for a reissue set of Coneheads.

Knightdramon 2015-01-11 09:35 PM

And a titan class combiner wars Devastator has been found in TRU Canada's listing system.

"Supposedly" six voyager sized constructicons.

Holy cow, this might be the year I buy more than 3 hasbro mainline releases :lol:

Skyquake87 2015-01-11 10:07 PM

I dunno, $80 seems alright to me, but Hasbro's earlier reissue set has been pricy on the aftermarket for about 3 years now and whilst this RRP might seem daft, it still seems reasonable - that's what, 50 - about the same as the Takara Bookbox set and previous Hasbro Outing cost over here. Are folk just upset becasue they're now just having to pay UK prices...? :p

I could go for a set of coneheads too...

Knightdramon 2015-01-11 10:26 PM

Not sure how I feel about the price...consider that that much money gets you [roughly] two hasbro leader class figures, which have more than 3 times each the number of parts of those insecticons and about 30 more points of articulation, it feels a bit too much.

Then again I don't have a thing for G1 figures so I'd pass on them at every instance regardless :lol:


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